Questions 3 of 7
concerning SVP, John Worrell Keely and His
Answers given by Dale
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- Q82) I am very perturbed by something
that was recently brought to my attention on your site and that I am
both surprised and disappointed by the offer and circumstances. This
isnt a working motor for $25,000, but checked it out anyway.
- A82) The motor does not work
mechanically, you are correct. (Although we have experienced partial
rotation on more than a dozen different occasions. We are close!) This
has been mentioned innumerable times on the SVPvril Forum
and in the dynasphere literature and the SVPvril web site. It is not
being sold as a "free energy device" until we have consistent and
verified mechanical rotation. There are too many people out there going
off half-cocked with their "free energy" discoveries before their work
is consistent and verified - I will not be one of them.
Dale, I cannot find any indication that Keely ever built any device
that he called a Dynasphere.
- A83) I wonder if you have access to
everything Keely ever did and wrote and the names of all the machines
he ever built? Supposedly he made near 2,000 devices. Does your
literature collection cover these hundreds of devices? If so Id
certainly like to have a copy. We were told by Keely during one of our
communications our dynasphere is a duplicate of a dynasphere
he made later than the ones we all have pictures of. Keely himself first
used the term dynasphere in a communication dated 11/30/95
- three weeks into our project and in subsequent communications. The
dynasphere is in fact an improved globe motor design. Click here to see
pictures of the original dynaspheres: Image 1, Image
I believe the design he gave us was his final design but I dont know
that for a fact. See A85.
- Q84) Are there really people out there
who would actually pay for this?
- A84) Of course! There are lots of people
who are beginning to understand the higher principles Keelys work in
harnessing Mind Force.
- "Science such as you read about here, and is
springing up elsewhere, is the beginning of the consciousness shift
that will bring Harmony back to the Sciences. This will greatly help
heal people and the planet. I urge each of you to incorporate
sympathetic, unconditional Love into your consciousness at every step
and moment. Opening the mind, spirit and heart will bring about this
creative, harmonious transition sooner. Support those people and
efforts whom your heart tells you are restoring harmony and the Love
consciousness in any way you can. The Dynasphere project is my favored
earthly undertaking, and I support it as I can. Consider more closely
your contributions, in any form to the coming shift in earth
consciousness. " Keely 9/13/1996
is expressed by the Tau is a driving force which can only be set in
motion by the power of selfless Love. It will be possible to use this
power to drive machines, which will, however, cease to function if
egotistical people make use of them.
It is perhaps known to
you that Keely invented a motor which would only go if he himself were
present. He was not deceiving people about this; for he had in him that
driving force orginating in the soul, which can set machines in motion.
A driving force which can only be moral, that is the idea of the
future; a most important force, with which culture must be inoculated,
if it is not to fall back on itself. The mechanical and the moral must
interpenetrate each other, because the mechancial is nothing without
the moral." [Rudolf Steiner, The Temple Legend - Freemasonry
& Related Occult Movements"]
- People are fascinated with this device and the energies it
radiates! It turns people on! It wakes them up! The dynasphere is the
implement for learning more about his vibratory physics, too. I thought
everyone knew that since I spoke specifically about this at the IANS
conference in Denver in 1996
where Atlin was shown to the public for the first time, and ever since.
Im sure you were there. It was at this conference we began discovering
some of the aspects of this force we had not suspected. Keely
harnessed Mind Force in his machinery. And how does the mind,
as consciousness, manifest itself? Here is a recent testimony (one of many):
- "Being in the presence of Atlin (the dynasphere)
firsthand was definitely one of the highlights [of the conference],
though. It was like just being in the presence of Truth, a presence
both crystal clear and strong, radiating without waiver or hesitation,
requiring absolutely nothing in return. That presence cannot help but
have an effect on all who come in contact, and it was beautiful to see
that in person. Even now, a week later, just connecting with that time
and writing I can feel that space and energy of Atlin as though Ive
never left it, so vivid is the impression. Im sure that different
people have different reactions, because Truth can either feel
threatening - (i.e. to the ego) - or, just True, simply and wonderfully
True. Atlin seems to me to speak directly to the potential for
undivided wholeness and love which we all are, hearkening and calling
to that place - completely ignoring all of the other places that we
ourselves seem to see." MM
Its about 2 steps behind Dennis Lee and his using the name of Tesla to
promote his scams.
- A85) Or a step or two behind using
Keelys name for KeelyNET? What does this project have to do with Lee,
Tesla or scams? Is there someone out there who has a proprietary
interest in the name "Keely"? Keely presented (through Dawn Stranges
and later others) just about all the information we needed to build
this device. He gave us specifications for materials, compounds,
dimensions, theory, where to find parts, how to do things, chemical
formulae, advice, philosophy, science and lots of friendship and love.
I provided the hands and willingness to follow his lead and
instructions. This amazing story can be read in my book "Atlin
- Knowing I AM". Dawn
deserves special recognition for her
part in all this. Others provided funds, tools and expertise
in fabrication. The result is a machine Keely dictated details on and I
built with my two hands and the help of a lot of people. So it is his
design and his instructions but my machine. Where else could such
esoteric knowledge come from? To honor Keely, his awesome knowledge and
person and his direct and indispensible part in this project I called
it the Keely Musical Dynasphere. I could have called it Dale Ponds
Musical Dynasphere and either name would be correct. So you see, I
didnt name the machine, Keely did. Im following his lead, using his
words - not inventing my own words like some others are doing.
- Q86) I have never seen anything in any
authentic Keely material from the period that remotely fits the
description of what this device is being claimed to do.
- A86) There is more knowledge on earth
than is contained in the meager
collections of old tattered scraps of
newspapers, magazine articles and books we have accumulated on Keelys
work and life
mostly written by hired journalists not too prone to dig deep into
anything they wrote about while trying to catch a deadline. I know some
use these old files as an authoritative source but Ive found them
lacking in many particulars. There is a lot of good stuff in them but
very lacking in specific technical information. I and many others
(about a million) now consider the SVPvril web site "authentic
literature" on the dynasphere. Try, you yourself, being near the
dynasphere during a conference and watch the people come and go and
LISTEN to their comments, observations and insights. I have listened
attentively to many thousands of people in this way. So have many
others. This will of course take calm, peace, an open mind, objective
observation and curiosity. The dynasphere will be shown at future
conferences where any can come and experience these energies
for themselves and hear others
comments. BTW, its free to be near Atlin, no charge or
obligation. Some of the explanatory links to Keelys writings have been
specified in my book "Atlin -
Knowing I AM".
"There is a celestial mind-force,
a great sympathetic force which is life itself, of which everything is
- Q87) Keely did refer to the dynasphere
and dynaspheric force but I can find no record of there ever being a
motor or device by that name.
- A87) See A83
& A85 above.
- Q88) He did build a Generator, a Globe
Motor, the Compound Disintegrator, sundry other devices and a Musical
Globe shown at a Worlds Fair as well as the loose term of Keelys
Motor which Ive always took to refer to the Globe motor as it was the
one that produced the real mechanical torque.
- A88) Yes he built all these you mention
and a reported 2,000 others not mentioned. What were the names for all
these unfound and unknown devices? The "Keely Motor" I take to be the ether
motor (Hydro-Vacuo) along the lines of the motor Mr. Hansen
salvaged from the Franklin Institute in the 1940s.
- Q89) I will continue to search my files
and other sources for that term if it was used by Keely himself but at
this point, it looks like your own term.
- A89) Knock yourself out. Please refer to A83
& A85 above.
- Q90) Perhaps you can enlighten me on why
you have decided to sell something called Keelys Musical Dynasphere
for $25,000 with the claim above, that doesnt work as a motor, which a
dynasphere would do, based on the terms dynamic and sphere?
- A90) Since you can find no reference to
a dynasphere in the literature how do you know what it is supposed to
do? The Dynasphere is being sold as a research instrument for learning
more about Keelys science, SVP, and for creating certain vibratory
environments also for exploratory work. The Keely historical literature
is scattered throughout
this web site.
- Q91) This enlightenment would take the
form of posted documents or photos that all can view, taken from Keely,
Moore or some other source of the period.
- A91) My answers are in this form and
this web site filled with hundreds of photos and documents - all free
for anyone, anywhere to look at, download, read and study. You can also
purchase my book "Atlin -
Knowing I AM" where the details of how this
fascinating device came into existence is clearly laid out.
- Q92) If that evidence cannot be produced
(and Im still looking), would you consider explaining to people that
it is your term and your interpretation of the Dynasphere, not truly
- A92) Please see A83
& A85 above.
- Q93) I see this a lot with Tesla where
quotes or stories are attributed to him that simply never happened, it
simply confuses what little we have that is from the period, not the
new age interpretations which the net seems to thrive on.
- A93) Sorry to hear of these
difficulties. Im likewise sadden to see otherwise intelligent people
irresponsibly inventing words and putting them in Keelys mouth when
such words were never uttered by him.
- Q94) I was hoping this could be avoided
with Keely, at the very least by people with knowledge of Keely
specifically stating this is my opinion, this is my interpretation,
this is my view or concept based on Keelys work, rather than say
outright it IS Keely.
- A94) I concur fully. See A83 & A85
- Q95) Long ago, you kindly let me copy
the photos from Keelys lab which I later got copies of from another
source, none were labelled [sic] with names or nameplates on the
machines that I can see.
- A95) Most Keely photos were unlabeled
that Ive seen except the ones in the Swedish book "Photos of Keely
Devices" which Edgerton Sykes spread around the world in the 1960s.
- Q96) The Globe Motor rotated and
produced power, it didnt just make music so I am puzzled how this
appellation of the Keely Musical Dynasphere originated.
- A96) Please refer to A83 & A85
- Q97) I looked through Bloomfield
Moores book and found no specific reference to a Dynasphere
motor, though there is a Musical Globe reference and a Globe motor
- A97) I do not think her book contains
all the information ever generated about or by John Worrell Keely. The
book is a great source but it does not cover everything Keely did or
wrote. In fact her book is a compilation of the many articles she wrote
and published in various magazines. Unfortunately these were edited
when put into the book. I found many of the original articles and they
do contain some interesting spiritual connections. These original and
unedited articles can be found in my online
- Q98) I am definitely open to correction
if you can provide the sources from the period showing that Keely did
in fact have a Dynasphere which was a MOTOR, not a musical device with
attributions of chakras and other new age claims that I think
completely warps and pollutes Keelys purpose which was to build a
motor that tapped into aetheric flows and that once started would run
until it suffered a reversion (requiring restarting) OR when the
parts wore out.
- A98) We all know most of the literature
about his devices and work disappeared. So we are forced to improvise
if we want to learn anything that is. I used the best sources available
to me. Please refer to A83
& A85 above. About
the chakra thing I believe this is your personal opinion. My opinion is
otherwise. How about these quotes attributed to Keely himself? (for
those who can understand)
- "I crave especially some light, indeed all you
can give me, on the moral or spiritual bearings of your philosophy. By
what term," inquired Professor Monteith, "shall we define that force
which, when differentiated, expresses itself on the lower planes of
manifestation as charity, self-forgetfulness, compassion, and the
tendency of all illuminated ones to association in universal
- "I hold," responded Aldebaran (Keely), "that ONE
SUPREME FORCE, which we may term the incomprehensible, holds within
itself all these sublime qualities, as an octave embraces its many
tones. This force expressed in the human organism, in the varied
impulses already designated, has what may be termed CONCORDANT CHORD
SETTINGS dominated by one or other of the above-named differentiations
of this supreme force.
- Now let us ask what makes human beings differ
the one from the other. The reason we give for this striking natural
phenomenon is that in one individual these chord-settings are allowed
full amplitude in action, while in others they are suppressed, and by
suppression rendered latent." from "Dashed
Against the Rock"
- "The sympathetic conditions that we call mind
are no more immaterial in their character than light or electricity.
The substance of the brain is molecular, while the substance of the
mind that permeates the brain is interetheric and is the element by
which the brain is impregnated, exciting it into action and controlling
physical motion. In order to trace the successive triple impulses,
taking the introductory one of sympathetic negative outreach, towards
the cerebral neutrals, which awaken the latent element to action, we
find that mind may be considered a specific order of interatomic motion
sympathetically influenced by the celestial flow and that it becomes
when thus excited by this medium a part and parcel of the celestial
- The brain is not a laboratory. It is as static
as the head of the positive negative attractor, until influenced by
certain orders of vibration, when it reveals the true character of the
outreach so induced. The brain is the high resonating receptacle where
the sympathetic celestial acts, and where molecular and atomic motion
exhibits itself, as according to the intensification brought to bear
upon it by the celestial mind flow.
- The question arises, Why is this condition of
the (luminous) ether always under a state of luminosity of an especial
order? Its characteristics are such, from its infinite tenuity and the
sympathetic activity with which it is impregnated, that it possesses an
order of vibratory, oscillatory velocity, which causes it to evolve its
own luminosity. This celestial, latent power, that induces luminosity
in this medium, is the same that registers in all aggregated forms of
matter, visible and invisible. It is held in the corpuscular embrace
until liberated by a compound vibratory negative medium.
- What does this activity represent, by which
luminosity is induced in the high etheric realm, if not to indicate
that even this order of ether is bounded by a greater region still
beyond? The activity of the corpuscles represents its outflow from the
luminiferous track towards the molecular centers of neutrality,
revealing the connecting link between mind and matter. These conditions
of luminosity have no thermal forces associated with them, although,
paradoxically, all thermal conditions emanate from that source. The
tenuity of this element accounts for it. It is when the streams come in
conflict with crude matter that heat is evolved from its latent state
and a different order of light from the etheric luminous is originated,
the sun being the intermediate transmitter.
- All planets and systems are sympathetic
intermediates, the whole of one system, connected in sympathy for each
other, the brain of Deity." Keely, from the Snell
- By the way it is my understanding Keely developed his later
devices to "prove up" his science - that is why Clara
Bloomfield-Moore agreed to finance him; i.e. only if he would stop
trying to make a commercial motor. The
later machines were scientific instruments. See A83
& A85. BTW, Keelys
later machines operated with MIND force. Mind has attributes of
emotions, feelings, thought and thinking and lots of other stuff. It
is NOT new age claims but science.
The studies into Mind, "Awakening", chakras and the like goes back
untold centuries - it is definitely not "new age". But dont believe
me, see Professor William Tillers (Un. Stanford) recent work with documenting
"intent" as a measurable force. See also Professor
Josephsons web site: http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/bdj10/stamps/today.html
See the SVPwiki for additional information on these topics.
- "Any visible molecular mass of metal can be
impregnated by triple orders of sympathetic vibration as to give it the
same sympathetic transmissive qualities that exist in the mental
forces, which make such mass subservient
to either the attractive or repulsive conditions of terrestrial
- Q99) What follows is what I have found
to date with regard to the term dynasphere, perhaps Dale will provide
his sources to show this is truly a Keely device since I seem to have
missed it or forgot about it.
- A99) Already addressed in A83 &
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